From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Thu Jan 6 14:23:48 2005 Received: from expredir4.cites.uiuc.edu (expredir4.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.187]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j06LLdFJ023440 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:21:39 -0700 Received: from expms1.cites.uiuc.edu (expms1.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.205]) by expredir4.cites.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j06LLdC4006822; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:21:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from expms1.cites.uiuc.edu (localhost.cites.uiuc.edu [127.0.0.1]) by expms1.cites.uiuc.edu (MOS 3.4.5-GR) with ESMTP id AXQ13018; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:21:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.174.5.212 by expms1.cites.uiuc.edu (MOS 3.4.5-GR) with HTTP/1.1; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:21:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:21:38 -0600 From: Subject: [DMDX] Missing Item Number To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list dear DMDXers, I am having the same 'Missing Item Number' problem that I have seen referred to in the archives involving the $. I have just about exhausted all avenues and so now turn to the list for help. The program is aborted where the second $ occurs closing the first bunch of non-scrambled items (experiment directions) and just before the first real experimental item. The 'JOB ABORTED' message on the DMDX screen (not diagnostics) seems to refer to a seemingly arbitrary place earlier in the file. I'd appreciate any help I can get. thanks, Jerry From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Thu Jan 6 16:38:05 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j06NbOFJ024172 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:37:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A06A51170 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:37:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from 666-devel.email.arizona.edu (jcf.Psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.7]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C70A47A74 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:37:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050106163653.00ba4a80@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:37:22 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "Jonathan C. Forster" Subject: [DMDX] Re: Missing Item Number In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list You will have to post your item file (I hope it's not large) as your problem could be anything at this stage. At 03:21 PM 1/6/2005 -0600, you wrote: >dear DMDXers, > >I am having the same 'Missing Item Number' problem that I >have seen referred to in the archives involving the $. I >have just about exhausted all avenues and so now turn to the >list for help. > >The program is aborted where the second $ occurs closing the >first bunch of non-scrambled items (experiment directions) >and just before the first real experimental item. > >The 'JOB ABORTED' message on the DMDX screen (not >diagnostics) seems to refer to a seemingly arbitrary place >earlier in the file. > >I'd appreciate any help I can get. > >thanks, > >Jerry >==================================================================== > Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread >==================================================================== /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Jargon is used as a means of succeeding by not simplifying. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sun Jan 9 20:32:11 2005 Received: from dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (root@dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.8.134]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0A3TrFJ004174 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:29:53 -0700 Received: from dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23325 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:29:51 +0800 (HKT) Received: from psyhclabpc09 ([137.189.166.65]) by dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23317 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:29:50 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <003401c4f6c5$95ef61a0$41a6bd89@psy.cuhk.edu.hk> From: "Wong Wing Kuen" To: Subject: [DMDX] Duration measurement of the vocal input Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:36:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F708.91F702E0" Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F708.91F702E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I am currently employing the DMDX program to conduct a research about = speech production. As the duration of the subjects' naming response is = one of the DVs in this study, I would like to ask how to obtain this = data with the DMDX program, many thanks for your attention. Regards, Andus Wong ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F708.91F702E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
 
I am currently employing the DMDX program to conduct = a=20 research about speech production. As the duration of the subjects' = naming=20 response is one of the DVs in this study, I would like to ask how = to obtain=20 this data with the DMDX program, many thanks for your = attention.
 
Regards,
Andus Wong
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F708.91F702E0-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sun Jan 9 22:05:54 2005 Received: from breaker.dakotacom.net (breaker.dakotacom.net [66.192.152.146]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0A54XFJ004472 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:04:33 -0700 Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (ppp393.broadband01.tus.dakotacom.net [69.9.25.137]) by breaker.dakotacom.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j0A54Xa8013353 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:04:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050109220339.00ba45a0@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:24 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: Duration measurement of the vocal input In-Reply-To: <003401c4f6c5$95ef61a0$41a6bd89@psy.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 11:36 AM 1/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: >Dear all, > >I am currently employing the DMDX program to conduct a research about >speech production. As the duration of the subjects' naming response is one >of the DVs in this study, I would like to ask how to obtain this data with >the DMDX program, many thanks for your attention. You can't, all you can get is onset. You'll have to use RecordVocal and use some later analysis software to determine duration. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong? From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Jan 10 19:11:27 2005 Received: from dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (root@dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.8.134]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0B2ANFJ008955 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:10:24 -0700 Received: from dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24790 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:10:22 +0800 (HKT) Received: from psyhclabpc09 ([137.189.166.65]) by dont.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA24755 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:10:16 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <000701c4f783$a5f52760$41a6bd89@psy.cuhk.edu.hk> From: "Wong Wing Kuen" To: Subject: [DMDX] Re: Duration Measurement of the Vocal Input Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:37:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4F74B.C463CFE0" Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4F74B.C463CFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Prof. J. Forster, Thanks for your quick response to my previous question. After reading = your reply, I tried to use the "RecordVocal" function to run a DMDX file in = two different pc computers (one with Windows98 and the other one with = WindowsXP OS) and did some sound file analysing afterward. To my surprise, I found = the WAV files that I got from the two computers were different in their duration. The WAV files that I got from the pc working with Win98 were always 1500ms in duration (this was also the time-out time that I had = preset in the parameter line) while those that I got from the pc with WinXP = varied in their duration (all within 1500ms) (even though the same DMDX program = was run in the two computers). Then I looked up the waveform of the sound = files from the pc with WinXP and found that the files were always ended = recording when the waveform came to be static after the voice onset. It seems like = the pc working with WinXP was employing a criteria which is different from = the one used by Win98 system to terminate the voice input recording process. = I am not sure if this difference was due to the differences between two operating systems or some other basic settings in the two computers. = That would be great if you could tell me some more about how to default the = way that the program would terminate the voice recording and if there is any difference between different operating systems on this issue. Many = thanks! Regards, Andus At 11:36 AM 1/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: >Dear all, > >I am currently employing the DMDX program to conduct a research about=20 >speech production. As the duration of the subjects' naming response is = one=20 >of the DVs in this study, I would like to ask how to obtain this data = with=20 >the DMDX program, many thanks for your attention. You can't, all you can get is onset. You'll have to use RecordVocal = and=20 use some later analysis software to determine duration. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong? ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4F74B.C463CFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Prof. J.=20 Forster,

Thanks for your quick response to my previous question. = After=20 reading your
reply, I tried to use the "RecordVocal" function to run = a DMDX=20 file in two
different pc computers (one with Windows98 and the other = one with=20 WindowsXP
OS) and did some sound file analysing afterward. To my = surprise, I=20 found the
WAV files that I got from the two computers were different = in=20 their
duration. The WAV files that I got from the pc working with = Win98=20 were
always 1500ms in duration (this was also the time-out time that = I had=20 preset
in the parameter line) while those that I got from the pc with = WinXP=20 varied
in their duration (all within 1500ms) (even though the same = DMDX=20 program was
run in the two computers). Then I looked up the waveform = of the=20 sound files
from the pc with WinXP and found that the files were = always ended=20 recording
when the waveform came to be static after the voice onset. = It seems=20 like the
pc working with WinXP was employing a criteria which is = different=20 from the
one used by Win98 system to terminate the voice input = recording=20 process. I
am not sure if this difference was due to the differences = between=20 two
operating systems or some other basic settings in the two = computers.=20 That
would be great if you could tell me some more about how to = default the=20 way
that the program would terminate the voice recording and if there = is=20 any
difference between different operating systems on this issue. = Many=20 thanks!

Regards,
Andus

 

At 11:36 AM 1/10/2005 +0800, you=20 wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>I am currently employing the DMDX = program=20 to conduct a research about
>speech production. As the duration = of the=20 subjects' naming response is one
>of the DVs in this study, I = would like=20 to ask how to obtain this data with
>the DMDX program, many = thanks for=20 your attention.

   You can't, all you can get is = onset. =20 You'll have to use RecordVocal and
use some later analysis software = to=20 determine=20 duration.

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  -jonathan=20 (j.c.f.)           = ;            =     =20 \=20 /
           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;=20 X
     ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML = MAIL  /=20 \

As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is=20 wrong?
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4F74B.C463CFE0-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Jan 11 14:10:45 2005 Received: from expredir1.cites.uiuc.edu (expredir1.cites.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.184]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0BL9sFJ013345 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:09:54 -0700 Received: from EALC-PC22.uiuc.edu (flb3-026.lang.uiuc.edu [128.174.233.26]) by expredir1.cites.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0BL9mAL012791 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:09:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050111144208.03a79cd0@express.cites.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:09:48 -0600 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: Jerry Packard Subject: [DMDX] Re: Missing Item Number - solved! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Dear DMDXers, With the kind help of Jonathan and Ken, the 'Missing Item Number' problem is solved! The problem arose from my having to run an algorithm to convert an older DMDX file containing Chinese characters from a version that uses 'Big-5' and 'GB' Chinese character encoding to Unicode Chinese character encoding. That algorithm successfully changed the Chinese character encoding, but it made unpredictable changes to things other than the Chinese character encoding. Most notably, the algorithm inserted line breaks/carriage returns and non-printing white spaces within the parameter line and within the quotes that designate things to be displayed on screen. This caused the Item Number and the $ to interact in strange fashion. Once the problem was pointed out, I had to go in and find all carriage returns within the parameter line, quotes etc. and remove them manually. This wasn't so bad; what was hard was identifying the problem in the first place, because the diagnostics etc. pointed in the direction of Missing Item Number and the $ scrambling operator (which I'm sure were intimately involved at some level!). thanks to Ken and Jonathan! Jerry At 03:21 PM 1/6/2005, you wrote: >dear DMDXers, > >I am having the same 'Missing Item Number' problem that I >have seen referred to in the archives involving the $. I >have just about exhausted all avenues and so now turn to the >list for help. > >The program is aborted where the second $ occurs closing the >first bunch of non-scrambled items (experiment directions) >and just before the first real experimental item. > >The 'JOB ABORTED' message on the DMDX screen (not >diagnostics) seems to refer to a seemingly arbitrary place >earlier in the file. > >I'd appreciate any help I can get. > >thanks, > >Jerry >==================================================================== > Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread >==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Jan 11 15:19:39 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0BLuQFJ013664 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:56:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997B0A547B9 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:56:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from 666-devel.email.arizona.edu (jcf.Psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.7]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19558A54485 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:56:26 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050111145549.00ba4b40@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:56:24 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "Jonathan C. Forster" Subject: [DMDX] Re: Duration Measurement of the Vocal Input In-Reply-To: <000701c4f783$a5f52760$41a6bd89@psy.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_526894312==_.ALT" Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --=====================_526894312==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:37 PM 1/10/2005 +0800, you wrote: >Dear Prof. J. Forster, > >Thanks for your quick response to my previous question. After reading your >reply, I tried to use the "RecordVocal" function to run a DMDX file in two >different pc computers (one with Windows98 and the other one with WindowsXP >OS) and did some sound file analysing afterward. To my surprise, I found the >WAV files that I got from the two computers were different in their >duration. The WAV files that I got from the pc working with Win98 were >always 1500ms in duration (this was also the time-out time that I had preset >in the parameter line) while those that I got from the pc with WinXP varied >in their duration (all within 1500ms) (even though the same DMDX program was >run in the two computers). Then I looked up the waveform of the sound files >from the pc with WinXP and found that the files were always ended recording >when the waveform came to be static after the voice onset. It seems like the >pc working with WinXP was employing a criteria which is different from the >one used by Win98 system to terminate the voice input recording process. I >am not sure if this difference was due to the differences between two >operating systems or some other basic settings in the two computers. That >would be great if you could tell me some more about how to default the way >that the program would terminate the voice recording and if there is any >difference between different operating systems on this issue. Many thanks! Read up all the RecordVocal threads in the list. Basically you want and not . /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Jargon is used as a means of succeeding by not simplifying. --=====================_526894312==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 07:37 PM 1/10/2005 +0800, you wrote:

Dear Prof. J. Forster,

Thanks for your quick response to my previous question. After reading your
reply, I tried to use the "RecordVocal" function to run a DMDX file in two
different pc computers (one with Windows98 and the other one with WindowsXP
OS) and did some sound file analysing afterward. To my surprise, I found the
WAV files that I got from the two computers were different in their
duration. The WAV files that I got from the pc working with Win98 were
always 1500ms in duration (this was also the time-out time that I had preset
in the parameter line) while those that I got from the pc with WinXP varied
in their duration (all within 1500ms) (even though the same DMDX program was
run in the two computers). Then I looked up the waveform of the sound files
from the pc with WinXP and found that the files were always ended recording
when the waveform came to be static after the voice onset. It seems like the
pc working with WinXP was employing a criteria which is different from the
one used by Win98 system to terminate the voice input recording process. I
am not sure if this difference was due to the differences between two
operating systems or some other basic settings in the two computers. That
would be great if you could tell me some more about how to default the way
that the program would terminate the voice recording and if there is any
difference between different operating systems on this issue. Many thanks!

  Read up all the RecordVocal threads in the list.  Basically you want <RecordVocal 1500> and not <RecordVocal>.


                                               /"\
 -jonathan (j.c.f.)                            \ /
                                                X
    ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL  / \

  Jargon is used as a means of succeeding by not simplifying.

--=====================_526894312==_.ALT-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Jan 26 17:16:02 2005 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0R0DvFJ020898 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:13:57 -0700 Received: from SANTOROMAURI@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id h.1a7.300762ec (25098) for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:13:50 -0500 (EST) From: SANTOROMAURI@aol.com Message-ID: <1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:13:49 EST Subject: [DMDX] problem To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d_boundary" Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --part1_1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, ANALYZE records ERs as 0.0 or 100.0. What can I do to solve the problem?=20 Below is the first page of my item file. < n 136 > =20 ! this is an example; $00 "This is a grammaticality judgment task.", "Press RIGHT-SHIFT KEY if the sentence is correct.", "Press LEFT-SHIFT KEY if it is incorrect.", "Respond as quickly & accurately as you can.", "Now Press SPACEBAR to begin practice."; +225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Quando Antonio va al bar, incontra spesso il suo vecchio= =20 amico Luigi."; +225 < % 60>"*"/ * "L'italiano, molti studenti lo studiano."; -225 < % 60>"*"/ * " Che bella macchina! Marcello le ha comprata ieri."; +225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria non ha studiato abbastanza, ha ricevuto u= n=20 brutto voto."; -225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Franco va in vacanza, invita spesso alla sua=20 amica."; -225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quel bambino somiglia davvero suo padre."; +225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Mario, sua mamma non gli ha creduto."; -225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria lavora molto, il suo manager la ha=20 consigliato di riposarsi."; +225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Marco =E8 un ragazzo modello. Telefona a sua madre ogni= =20 giorno."; -225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Luisa va al ristorante, voglio sempre mangiare l= a=20 pasta."; 00 "End of practice. Press SPACEBAR to begin experiment.";$ $ +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Carlo torna a casa, guarda sempre la=20 televisione."; +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Gli italiani bevono il vino a pranzo."; -225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando sar=E0 compleanno di Marco andremo tutti a casa=20 suo."; -225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Le lasagne, Antonio non li ha mangiate."; +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lo studente non =E8 andato a scuola perch=E9 non aveva f= atto=20 i compiti."; -225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Carla, il direttore desidera vederle subito."; -225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Franco ha detto che aspetta per il suo amico davanti al=20 bar."; +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Il vino bianco, il signor Rossi preferisce berlo=20 freddo.";$ -21 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Mario lavora, la sua ragazza lo vuole telefonare=20 spesso."; +52 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lucio prende sempre la macchina per andare=20 all'universit=E0."; +49 <% 60> "*"/ * "Antonio e Luisa si sono conosciuti durante una vacanza in= =20 montagna."; -30 <% 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Mario era bravo con lei, Luisa lo ha fatto un=20 regalo."; -97 <% 60> "*"/ * "A Paolo piacciono andare in discoteca."; Thanks for your help. Maurizio Santoro --part1_1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,
ANALYZE records ERs as 0.0 or 100.0. What can I do to solve the problem? Bel= ow is the first page of my item file.
< n 136 > <s 5>  <azk> <cr> <nfb> <ntl= >  
! this is an example;
$00 <ln -2 > "This is a grammaticality judgment task.",
       <ln -1> "Press RIGHT-SHIFT KEY i= f the sentence is correct.",
            &nbs= p;          "Press LEFT-SHIFT K= EY if it is incorrect.",
       <ln 1> "Respond as quickly &= accurately as you can.",
           <ln 2> "N= ow Press SPACEBAR to begin practice.";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Quando Antonio va al bar, incontra spesso il suo v= ecchio amico Luigi.";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "L'italiano, molti studenti lo studiano.";
-225 < % 60>"*"/ * " Che bella macchina! Marcello le ha comprata ieri.= ";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria non ha studiato abbastanza, ha rice= vuto un brutto voto.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Franco va in vacanza, invita spesso alla s= ua amica.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quel bambino somiglia davvero suo padre.";
+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Mario, sua mamma non gli ha creduto.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria lavora molto, il suo manager la ha= consigliato di riposarsi.";
+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Marco =E8 un ragazzo modello. Telefona a sua madr= e ogni giorno.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Luisa va al ristorante, voglio sempre mang= iare la pasta.";
00 "End of practice. Press SPACEBAR to begin experiment.";$
$ +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Carlo torna a casa, guarda sempre la tele= visione.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Gli italiani bevono il vino a pranzo.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando sar=E0 compleanno di Marco andremo tutti a=20= casa suo.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Le lasagne, Antonio non li ha mangiate.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lo studente non =E8 andato a scuola perch=E9 non a= veva fatto i compiti.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Carla, il direttore desidera vederle subito.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Franco ha detto che aspetta per il suo amico davan= ti al bar.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Il vino bianco, il signor Rossi preferisce berlo f= reddo.";$
-21 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Mario lavora, la sua ragazza lo vuole telefo= nare spesso.";
+52 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lucio prende sempre la macchina per andare all'univ= ersit=E0.";
+49 <% 60> "*"/ * "Antonio e Luisa si sono conosciuti durante una vaca= nza in montagna.";
-30 <% 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Mario era bravo con lei, Luisa lo ha fatto= un regalo.";
-97 <% 60> "*"/ * "A Paolo piacciono andare in discoteca.";

Thanks for your help.

Maurizio Santoro --part1_1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d_boundary-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Jan 26 20:58:15 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0R3vLFJ021441 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:57:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (eomer.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.219]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D35A6A0D2 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:57:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB103A69BBE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:57:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050126204859.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:52:47 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: problem In-Reply-To: <1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_293765796==_.ALT" Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --=====================_293765796==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless I'm mistaken stores all RTs at 0 or 1, if you don't want=20 this then that's the likely source of your problem. Otherwise your Analyze= =20 specification .SPC file is likely to be the culprit. At 07:13 PM 1/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, >ANALYZE records ERs as 0.0 or 100.0. What can I do to solve the problem?=20 >Below is the first page of my item file. >< n 136 > >! this is an example; >$00 "This is a grammaticality judgment task.", > "Press RIGHT-SHIFT KEY if the sentence is correct.", > "Press LEFT-SHIFT KEY if it is incorrect.", > "Respond as quickly & accurately as you can.", > "Now Press SPACEBAR to begin practice."; >+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Quando Antonio va al bar, incontra spesso il suo=20 >vecchio amico Luigi."; >+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "L'italiano, molti studenti lo studiano."; >-225 < % 60>"*"/ * " Che bella macchina! Marcello le ha comprata ieri."; >+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria non ha studiato abbastanza, ha ricevuto= =20 >un brutto voto."; >-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Franco va in vacanza, invita spesso alla sua=20 >amica."; >-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quel bambino somiglia davvero suo padre."; >+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Mario, sua mamma non gli ha creduto."; >-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria lavora molto, il suo manager la ha=20 >consigliato di riposarsi."; >+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Marco =E8 un ragazzo modello. Telefona a sua madre= ogni=20 >giorno."; >-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Luisa va al ristorante, voglio sempre mangiare= =20 >la pasta."; >00 "End of practice. Press SPACEBAR to begin experiment.";$ >$ +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Carlo torna a casa, guarda sempre la=20 >televisione."; >+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Gli italiani bevono il vino a pranzo."; >-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando sar=E0 compleanno di Marco andremo tutti a casa= =20 >suo."; >-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Le lasagne, Antonio non li ha mangiate."; >+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lo studente non =E8 andato a scuola perch=E9 non aveva= =20 >fatto i compiti."; >-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Carla, il direttore desidera vederle subito."; >-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Franco ha detto che aspetta per il suo amico davanti=20 >al bar."; >+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Il vino bianco, il signor Rossi preferisce berlo=20 >freddo.";$ >-21 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Mario lavora, la sua ragazza lo vuole telefonare= =20 >spesso."; >+52 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lucio prende sempre la macchina per andare=20 >all'universit=E0."; >+49 <% 60> "*"/ * "Antonio e Luisa si sono conosciuti durante una vacanza= =20 >in montagna."; >-30 <% 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Mario era bravo con lei, Luisa lo ha fatto un= =20 >regalo."; >-97 <% 60> "*"/ * "A Paolo piacciono andare in discoteca."; > >Thanks for your help. > >Maurizio Santoro /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Weinder's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. --=====================_293765796==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  Unless I'm mistaken <ntl> stores all RTs at 0 or 1, if you don't want this then that's the likely source of your problem.  Otherwise your Analyze specification .SPC file is likely to be the culprit.

At 07:13 PM 1/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
Hi all,
ANALYZE records ERs as 0.0 or 100.0. What can I do to solve the problem? Below is the first page of my item file.
< n 136 > <s 5>  <azk> <cr> <nfb> <ntl>  
! this is an example;
$00 <ln -2 > "This is a grammaticality judgment task.",
       <ln -1> "Press RIGHT-SHIFT KEY if the sentence is correct.",
            &nbs= p;          "Press LEFT-SHIFT KEY if it is incorrect.",
       <ln 1> "Respond as quickly & accurately as you can.",
           <ln 2> "Now Press SPACEBAR to begin practice.";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Quando Antonio va al bar, incontra spesso il suo vecchio amico Luigi.";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "L'italiano, molti studenti lo studiano.";
-225 < % 60>"*"/ * " Che bella macchina! Marcello le ha comprata ieri.";
+225 < % 60>"*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria non ha studiato abbastanza, ha ricevuto un brutto voto.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Franco va in vacanza, invita spesso alla sua amica.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quel bambino somiglia davvero suo padre.";
+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Mario, sua mamma non gli ha creduto.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Maria lavora molto, il suo manager la ha consigliato di riposarsi.";
+225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Marco =E8 un ragazzo modello. Telefona a sua madre ogni giorno.";
-225 < % 60> "*"/ * "Quando Luisa va al ristorante, voglio sempre mangiare la pasta.";
00 "End of practice. Press SPACEBAR to begin experiment.";$
$ +225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Carlo torna a casa, guarda sempre la televisione.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Gli italiani bevono il vino a pranzo.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando sar=E0 compleanno di Marco andremo tutti a casa suo.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Le lasagne, Antonio non li ha mangiate.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lo studente non =E8 andato a scuola perch=E9 non aveva fatto i compiti.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Carla, il direttore desidera vederle subito.";
-225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Franco ha detto che aspetta per il suo amico davanti al bar.";
+225 <% 60> "*"/ * "Il vino bianco, il signor Rossi preferisce berlo freddo.";$
-21 <% 60> "*"/ * "Quando Mario lavora, la sua ragazza lo vuole telefonare spesso.";
+52 <% 60> "*"/ * "Lucio prende sempre la macchina per andare all'universit=E0.";
+49 <% 60> "*"/ * "Antonio e Luisa si sono conosciuti durante una vacanza in montagna.";
-30 <% 60> "*"/ * "Poich=E9 Mario era bravo con lei, Luisa lo ha fatto un regalo.";
-97 <% 60> "*"/ * "A Paolo piacciono andare in discoteca.";

Thanks for your help.

Maurizio Santoro

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--=====================_293765796==_.ALT-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Jan 26 22:56:39 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0R5uCFJ021772; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:56:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (boromir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.217]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491B1A6A9FE; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:56:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD153A6965A; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:56:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050126225010.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:56:09 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: problem In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050126204859.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> References: <1a7.300762ec.2f298c3d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 08:52 PM 1/26/2005 -0700, you wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken stores all RTs at 0 or 1, Duh, -1 or 1. The default Analyze cutoffs are going to make a complete mess of that because they're assuming RTs are in milliseconds, not the values true or false. was introduced back in the bad old 16 bit days when an RT of 32 seconds was the longest possible RT and someone wanted a longer RT than that. These days with the limit being a large part of a month is largely useless, surprises me how many people try to use it. If you want really long RTs set the time limit to something really big, like . /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Weinder's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Thu Jan 27 06:41:30 2005 Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0RDLYFJ022539 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:21:34 -0700 Received: from drake.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.2.64]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cu9aV-0003Y6-1N for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:31 +0000 Received: from http by drake.shef.ac.uk with local (Exim 4.42) id 1Cu9aU-0001fu-Tj for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:30 +0000 Received: from drake.shef.ac.uk (drake.shef.ac.uk [143.167.2.64]) by 143.167.2.64 (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:30 +0000 Message-ID: <1106832090.41f8eadad4dff@webmail.shef.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:30 +0000 From: C A Ankerstein To: DMDX mailing list Subject: [DMDX] problem with .avi files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hi All, I'm trying to run an experiment using .jpg pictures and .avi movies. I got it running on my PC with DMDX 3.0.2.5 with no problems whatsoever. Yesterday I tried to get the same script to run on my laptop. It didn't work, no .jpg or .avi files would show. Now I have DMDX 3.1.2.1 on the laptop and the .jpg files work, but I get the following message as soon as an .avi file comes up: "failed to create sample. VFW_S_RESOURCE_NOT_NEEDED (88760250) The resource specified is no longer needed" What do I do now? I've tried downloading DMDX 3.0.4.3 (a suggestion from the mailing list archive), but I get 3.1.2.1 instead. Thanks, Carrie -- Carrie Ankerstein Department of Human Communication Sciences University of Sheffield 31 Claremont Crescent Sheffield S10 2TA United Kingdom phone: (0) 114 22 22412 email: hcp02caa@sheffield.ac.uk From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Thu Jan 27 08:27:15 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0RFQpFJ022743 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:26:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (eomer.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.219]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E86A6B17D for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:26:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD0BA6B143 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:26:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050127082106.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:26:48 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: problem with .avi files In-Reply-To: <1106832090.41f8eadad4dff@webmail.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 01:21 PM 1/27/2005 +0000, you wrote: >"failed to create sample. VFW_S_RESOURCE_NOT_NEEDED (88760250) The resource >specified is no longer needed" Now, that's an interesting one, the windows video codec is complaining that there's more than it needs in the .AVI file, weird. >What do I do now? I've tried downloading DMDX 3.0.4.3 (a suggestion from the >mailing list archive), but I get 3.1.2.1 instead. It's not a DMDX version problem (as a side note vary rarely will an earlier version of DMDX be a better thing to use), it's a Video For Windows problem. Sometime in the past you've either upgraded the Media Player on that desktop machine or installed something else that's given it expanded capabilities w.r.t. .AVI files. You need to install whatever that was on the laptop too. If you can't recall what it was I recommend upgrading the Windows Media Player first as it upgrades a ton of different video related things. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Weinder's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Fri Jan 28 10:29:18 2005 Received: from elf.ii.uj.edu.pl (elf.ii.uj.edu.pl [149.156.65.17]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0SHRsFJ028273 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:27:55 -0700 Received: by elf.ii.uj.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1641) id 470691100096D; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:27:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elf.ii.uj.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9C612C00489 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:27:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:27:49 +0100 From: Jakub Szewczyk To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Other I/O cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hello there, I have a question. I'm preparing an EEG ERP experiment, and thus I need to send triggers from DMDX to the program gathering the EEG signal (Biosemi ActiView). We do have a 32-bit PCI PnP IO card based on 8254 chip. Is there any chance DMDX will support output devices other than 8255-based ones? - Jakub From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Fri Jan 28 14:08:47 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j0SL83FJ029522 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:08:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (eomer.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.219]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB9A6C893 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:08:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from 666-devel.email.arizona.edu (jcf.psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.7]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC134A6A870 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:07:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050128140352.00ba4bb8@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:07:52 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "Jonathan C. Forster" Subject: [DMDX] Re: Other I/O cards In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 06:27 PM 1/28/2005 +0100, you wrote: >Hello there, > > I have a question. I'm preparing an EEG ERP experiment, and thus I need to >send triggers from DMDX to the program gathering the EEG signal (Biosemi >ActiView). We do have a 32-bit PCI PnP IO card based on 8254 chip. Is there >any chance DMDX will support output devices other than 8255-based ones? It currently only supports Measurement Computing and Keithley interface cards. Any other types of cards will require someone sponsoring their addition to DMDX unless there are DirectX drivers for the cards (unlikely as we've yet to see any instances of DirectX drivers for interface cards). /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Expertise in one field does not carry over into other fields. But experts often think so. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Feb 1 02:28:20 2005 Received: from web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.57]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with SMTP id j119R8FJ011522 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:27:09 -0700 Received: (qmail 56658 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2005 09:27:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20050201092703.56656.qmail@web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.67.93.228] by web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:27:03 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:27:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Nicholas Riches Subject: [DMDX] Query about unmapping buttons in the middle of a program To: dmdx@psy1.psych.arizona.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1775262743-1107250023=:56645" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --0-1775262743-1107250023=:56645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response (I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort). I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and then remap them again? Many thanks Nick Riches Kings College London --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! --0-1775262743-1107250023=:56645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi
 
I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response (I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort). I've used the command <UnMapButton Space> (umb for short),  to do this (on its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and then remap them again?
 
Many thanks
 
Nick Riches
 
Kings College London

ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! --0-1775262743-1107250023=:56645-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Feb 1 08:24:26 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j11FNrFJ012500 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:23:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (eomer.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.219]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7F8A6F3A7 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:23:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D7CA6F448 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:23:52 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050201081606.00ba4670@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:23:50 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: Query about unmapping buttons in the middle of a program In-Reply-To: <20050201092703.56656.qmail@web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 09:27 AM 2/1/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hi > >I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response >(I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be >able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in >the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and >then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject >answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort). >I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on >its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like >at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of >line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and >then remap them again? Yes, but the keywords have to be in the body of the item, not before it. You've probably got: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; You need: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; However you can't un-map the abort key name. You'll have to temporarily map some other key that has a much lower chance of being accidentally hit instead and then map the space bar back again. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ You stop believing in Santa Claus is when you start getting clothes for Christmas. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Feb 2 02:28:15 2005 Received: from web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.51]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with SMTP id j129R2FJ015826 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:27:02 -0700 Received: (qmail 15266 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2005 09:26:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20050202092656.15264.qmail@web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.66.206.38] by web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:26:56 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:26:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Nicholas Riches Subject: [DMDX] Re: Query about unmapping buttons in the middle of a program To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050201081606.00ba4670@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1301755719-1107336416=:12869" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --0-1301755719-1107336416=:12869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for that. I'll give it a try. Nick "j.c.f." wrote: At 09:27 AM 2/1/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hi > >I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response >(I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be >able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in >the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and >then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject >answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort). >I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on >its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like >at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of >line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and >then remap them again? Yes, but the keywords have to be in the body of the item, not before it. You've probably got: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; You need: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; However you can't un-map the abort key name. You'll have to temporarily map some other key that has a much lower chance of being accidentally hit instead and then map the space bar back again. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ You stop believing in Santa Claus is when you start getting clothes for Christmas. ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== Dr Nick Riches 14 Swinfield Ave, Chorlton, Manchester M21 9FU Tel: 0161 861 9193 Mobile: 07713 632 701 --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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Thanks for that. I'll give it a try.
 
Nick

"j.c.f." <jforster@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> wrote:
At 09:27 AM 2/1/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response
>(I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be
>able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in
>the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and
>then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject
>answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort).
>I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on
>its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like
>at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of
>line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and
>then remap them again?

Yes, but the keywords have to be in the body of the item, not before
it. You've probably got:

+10 "frame" * ;
+11 "frame" * ;

You need:

+10 "frame" * ;
+11 "frame" * ;

However you can't un-map the abort key name. You'll have to temporarily
map some other key that has a much lower chance of being accidentally hit
instead and then map the space bar back again.
/"\
-jonathan (j.c.f.) \ /
X
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Messenger - all new features - even more fun! --0-1301755719-1107336416=:12869-- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Feb 2 08:27:59 2005 Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j12FROFJ016821 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:27:25 -0700 Received: from drake.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.2.64]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwMPZ-0005qg-1A for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:27:21 +0000 Received: from http by drake.shef.ac.uk with local (Exim 4.42) id 1CwMPY-00015P-IO for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:27:20 +0000 Received: from drake.shef.ac.uk (drake.shef.ac.uk [143.167.2.64]) by 143.167.2.64 (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:27:20 +0000 Message-ID: <1107358040.4200f158802cc@webmail.shef.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:27:20 +0000 From: C A Ankerstein To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Re: problem with .avi files References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050127082106.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050127082106.00ba4708@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hi, My laptop had the latest version of Windows Media Player and there was nothing I could do to get the videos to work. In the archives (http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/thread?message=1421802), I found a similar problem with avi files not playing and you suggested using something higher than Windows 98 (which is weird because my PC has Windows 98 and was perfectly happy to display the avi files---unfortunately I can't run my experiments on my own PC). So I tried that on another PC with XP and it works---but I had to change the format of the avi files to be compatible with Windows Media Player Version 9. Thanks for your help, Carrie -- Carrie Ankerstein Department of Human Communication Sciences University of Sheffield 31 Claremont Crescent Sheffield S10 2TA United Kingdom phone: (0) 114 22 22412 email: hcp02caa@sheffield.ac.uk Quoting "j.c.f." : > At 01:21 PM 1/27/2005 +0000, you wrote: > > >"failed to create sample. VFW_S_RESOURCE_NOT_NEEDED (88760250) The resource > >specified is no longer needed" > > Now, that's an interesting one, the windows video codec is complaining > that there's more than it needs in the .AVI file, weird. > > > >What do I do now? I've tried downloading DMDX 3.0.4.3 (a suggestion from > the > >mailing list archive), but I get 3.1.2.1 instead. > > It's not a DMDX version problem (as a side note vary rarely will an > earlier version of DMDX be a better thing to use), it's a Video For Windows > problem. Sometime in the past you've either upgraded the Media Player on > that desktop machine or installed something else that's given it expanded > capabilities w.r.t. .AVI files. You need to install whatever that was on > the laptop too. If you can't recall what it was I recommend upgrading the > Windows Media Player first as it upgrades a ton of different video related > things. > > /"\ > -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / > X > ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ > > Weinder's Law of Libraries: > There are no answers, only cross-references. > > > ==================================================================== > Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread > ==================================================================== > From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Feb 8 06:53:55 2005 Received: from web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.53]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with SMTP id j18DqXFJ012241 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 06:52:33 -0700 Received: (qmail 31831 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2005 13:52:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20050208135227.31829.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.66.5.155] by web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:52:27 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:52:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Nicholas Riches Subject: [DMDX] Re: Query about unmapping buttons in the middle of a program To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050201081606.00ba4670@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-970056959-1107870747=:31775" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list --0-970056959-1107870747=:31775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, The advice you gave me about unmapping buttons doesn't appear to be working. The line reads +11 * "monkey" ; I get an error message which says "misplaced parameter keyword." Do you know if there's any way around this? Many thanks Nick Riches "j.c.f." wrote: At 09:27 AM 2/1/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hi > >I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response >(I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be >able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in >the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and >then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject >answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort). >I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on >its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like >at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of >line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and >then remap them again? Yes, but the keywords have to be in the body of the item, not before it. You've probably got: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; You need: +10 "frame" * ; +11 "frame" * ; However you can't un-map the abort key name. You'll have to temporarily map some other key that has a much lower chance of being accidentally hit instead and then map the space bar back again. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ You stop believing in Santa Claus is when you start getting clothes for Christmas. ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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Hi,
 
The advice you gave me about unmapping buttons doesn't appear to be working. The line reads
 
+11 *<wav 2> "monkey" <aikn +Q>;
 
I get an error message which says "misplaced parameter keyword."
 
Do you know if there's any way around this?
Many thanks
 
Nick Riches

"j.c.f." <jforster@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> wrote:
At 09:27 AM 2/1/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I've made a program in which the Space key is mapped to the ABORT response
>(I've done this because I'm using soundfiles, and I want the subject to be
>able to move on to the next sound file at any stage). At various stages in
>the program I'd like to unmap the Space key for a couple of lines, and
>then remap it again to the ABORT response (this is because the subject
>answers a yes / no question and I don't want them to accidentally abort).
>I've used the command (umb for short), to do this (on
>its own line, preceeded by a line number), but DMDX doesn't seem to like
>at, and gives the error response ("misplaced keyword at beginning of
>line"). Is it possible to unmap buttons in the middle of a program and
>then remap them again?

Yes, but the keywords have to be in the body of the item, not before
it. You've probably got:

+10 "frame" * ;
+11 "frame" * ;

You need:

+10 "frame" * ;
+11 "frame" * ;

However you can't un-map the abort key name. You'll have to temporarily
map some other key that has a much lower chance of being accidentally hit
instead and then map the space bar back again.
/"\
-jonathan (j.c.f.) \ /
X
ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \

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Subject: [DMDX] Re: Query about unmapping buttons in the middle of a program In-Reply-To: <20050208135227.31829.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050201081606.00ba4670@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 01:52 PM 2/8/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, > >The advice you gave me about unmapping buttons doesn't appear to be >working. The line reads > >+11 * "monkey" ; > >I get an error message which says "misplaced parameter keyword." > >Do you know if there's any way around this? Oh, must only be a parameter. I'll compile a new version later today. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ There's nothing wrong with being a self-made man if you don't consider the job finished too soon. - John Mooney From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Tue Feb 8 14:08:20 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j18L7XFJ014407 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:07:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (eowyn.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.221]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F625A78FFA for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:07:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from 666-devel.email.arizona.edu (jcf.psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.7]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115A5A78841 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:07:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050208140549.00ba4a98@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:07:30 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "Jonathan C. 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From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Thu Feb 10 08:21:34 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1AFKqFJ022166; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:20:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (eomer.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.219]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DC8A7BC35; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:20:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724D2A7C03B; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:20:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050210081951.00ba4758@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:20:50 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Re: DMDX on a Dell Inspiron 6000 In-Reply-To: <1108033975.420b41b800022@www.maccs.mq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 10:12 PM 2/10/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Hello fellow DMDXers! > >I am contemplating purchasing a Dell Inspiron 6000, however I am slightly >worried by the fact that the graphics card is listed as "Intel Media >Accelerator 900". Has anyone managed to use DMDX on such a laptop? All >comments warmly welcomed. Yeah, I think we have one upstairs that's running DMDX well. I'll check later on today. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ There's nothing wrong with being a self-made man if you don't consider the job finished too soon. - John Mooney From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Fri Feb 11 10:36:46 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1BHZCFJ027993 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:35:12 -0700 Received: from ncsb.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.100]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1Czeh7-0004B3-Qv for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:07 +0000 Received: from coracle.psy.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.60.205] helo=coracle.psy-staff.psy.bris.ac.uk) by ncsb.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.44) id 1Czeh7-0007Eo-Nh for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:05 +0000 From: "CJ Davis, Experimental Psychology" To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] modifying the refresh rate Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hi, I'd like to run a masked priming experiment in which the prime duration is 33 ms. But I'm using DMDX on a (Win 2000) setup which has a refresh rate of 13.33 ms, so the closest I can get is either 27 ms or 40 ms. On DMASTR it used to be possible to change the number of screen lines in order to reduce the refresh rate. TimeDX has an option to modify the number of screen lines, but it seems to make the program crash (even if I change the number by one unit). Is there some way that I can either reduce or increase the refresh rate? Thanks, Colin ---------------------- Dr. Colin J Davis, Dept. of Experimental Psychology, University of Bristol, 8 Woodland Rd, Bristol BS8 1TN Colin.Davis@bristol.ac.uk ph. +44 (0117) 928 9199 fax +44 (0117) 928 8588 From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Fri Feb 11 16:32:06 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1BNUxFJ030222 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:30:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272DCA7D58E for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:30:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from 666-devel.email.arizona.edu (jcf.psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.7]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1666A79AB1 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:30:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050211162615.00ba4c98@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:30:57 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "Jonathan C. Forster" Subject: [DMDX] Re: modifying the refresh rate In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list At 05:35 PM 2/11/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'd like to run a masked priming experiment in which the prime duration is >33 ms. But I'm using DMDX on a (Win 2000) setup which has a refresh rate >of 13.33 ms, so the closest I can get is either 27 ms or 40 ms. On DMASTR >it used to be possible to change the number of screen lines in order to >reduce the refresh rate. TimeDX has an option to modify the number of >screen lines, but it seems to make the program crash (even if I change the >number by one unit). Is there some way that I can either reduce or >increase the refresh rate? Not under Windows XP/2k/NT. I'm surprised it even lets you, pretty sure there's code in there to disallow it. You can pick other display dimensions that might have a different refresh rate or you should be able to pick faster refresh rates that might let you come closer but changing the number of lines used with another video mode is no longer an option. If you aren't seeing other refresh rates then it's possible you need later display drivers, a later operating system or a better video card and or a better monitor. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ Interesting but useless facts #36. Bacteria need vitamin B. From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Fri Feb 11 21:50:53 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1C4nqFJ030988 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:49:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A13A7E0DA for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:49:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from anybodyi.u.arizona.edu (megacentral-6.dsl.arizona.edu [128.196.237.6]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D22A7E0B1 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:49:52 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050211214536.00ba4690@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:49:50 -0700 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu From: "j.c.f." Subject: [DMDX] Dell Inspiron's and Intel Graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Turns out we don't have an Inspiron 6000 upstairs but instead have a 1000 or 1100 instead. Still has an Intel graphics chip in it though and the more I think about it the less trouble I ever recall DMDX having with the Intel devices. In fact they're almost my recommended thing these days, Intel aren't obsessed like Nvidia and ATI with absurdly good 3D bench marks so their drivers are solid and every time I can think of recently that DMDX has run on one of their chipsets it's been without any shenanigans at all. /"\ -jonathan (j.c.f.) \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ There's nothing wrong with being a self-made man if you don't consider the job finished too soon. - John Mooney From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sun Feb 13 18:19:24 2005 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (cooper.uws.edu.au [137.154.210.65]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1E0rhFJ004873 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:53:44 -0700 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-POST-1.9) with ESMTP id j1E0rffK024467 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:53:42 +1100 (EST) Received: from ITP14448 ([137.154.107.236]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-PRE-1.9) with ESMTP id j1E0rewF024385; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:53:40 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200502140053.j1E0rewF024385@cooper.uws.edu.au> From: "Arman Abrahamyan" To: Subject: [DMDX] Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:53:34 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050211214536.00ba4690@psy1.psych.arizona.edu> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Greetings ! I was trying to map a SpaceBar on computer keyboard for a response. However, it doesn't work. I could successfully map few other buttons (e.g. Left and Right Arrows, Backspace), but not the SpaceBar (I got the SpaceBar button name from TimeDX). I am using Acer TravelMate 8000 laptop with an external keyboard. I have tried to disconnect the external keyboard, but it didn't help either. Any ideas what could be a possible cause? Thank you for your help, Arman Here is an example of a code I am using: ---- $ ! HERE IS THE MAPPING PART; ! Here BackSpace works, but Space doesn't 1 ; $ \ +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ ----- From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 00:33:15 2005 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1E7UrFJ005823 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:30:54 -0700 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCE914C01B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie by localhost.localdomain (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.16) id 20906-36823349; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:30:46 +0000 Received: from PSY169071 (psy169071.psy.tcd.ie [134.226.169.71]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808D414C01B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:30:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "Andy" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:31:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200502140053.j1E0rewF024385@cooper.uws.edu.au> Message-Id: <20050214073045.808D414C01B@smtp3.tcd.ie> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Dear Arman, try changing your bit to . I find it odd though that your space bar is called SpaceBar, something to do with the external keyboard? Also, here's some incredibly ugly (and probably incredibly inefficient) code I put together a while back that allowed me to remap responses to the buttons of a mouse. I bet there are much nicer examples on the DMDX list archive though. Best, Andy. F2 d7 ... +1 * "y", "top", "left" ; -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 00:54 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Greetings ! I was trying to map a SpaceBar on computer keyboard for a response. However, it doesn't work. I could successfully map few other buttons (e.g. Left and Right Arrows, Backspace), but not the SpaceBar (I got the SpaceBar button name from TimeDX). I am using Acer TravelMate 8000 laptop with an external keyboard. I have tried to disconnect the external keyboard, but it didn't help either. Any ideas what could be a possible cause? Thank you for your help, Arman Here is an example of a code I am using: ---- $ ! HERE IS THE MAPPING PART; ! Here BackSpace works, but Space doesn't 1 ; $ \ +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ ----- ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 02:29:37 2005 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (cooper.uws.edu.au [137.154.210.65]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1E9SwFJ006115 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:28:58 -0700 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-POST-1.9) with ESMTP id j1E9SvfK000550 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:28:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from ITP14448 ([137.154.115.27]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-PRE-1.9) with ESMTP id j1E9SuwF000532 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:28:56 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200502140928.j1E9SuwF000532@cooper.uws.edu.au> From: "Arman Abrahamyan" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:28:49 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20050214073045.808D414C01B@smtp3.tcd.ie> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Andy, I have tried to replace with and got the following error message "Button name <+SpaceBar> not found on input devices". Apparently, the name of space bar on the laptop is "Space". When I use DMDX doesn't complain and executes the code. However, when I press the space bar I get "No Response" message, indicating that the DMDX doesn't register pressing the space bar due to some reason. I assume that space bar has a special function in DMDX and doesn't get mapped easily, if at all. If there are no other suggestions I will try to use your code as a last resort. Thank you, Arman -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:31 PM To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Dear Arman, try changing your bit to . I find it odd though that your space bar is called SpaceBar, something to do with the external keyboard? Also, here's some incredibly ugly (and probably incredibly inefficient) code I put together a while back that allowed me to remap responses to the buttons of a mouse. I bet there are much nicer examples on the DMDX list archive though. Best, Andy. F2 d7 .. +1 * "y", "top", "left" ; -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 00:54 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Greetings ! I was trying to map a SpaceBar on computer keyboard for a response. However, it doesn't work. I could successfully map few other buttons (e.g. Left and Right Arrows, Backspace), but not the SpaceBar (I got the SpaceBar button name from TimeDX). I am using Acer TravelMate 8000 laptop with an external keyboard. I have tried to disconnect the external keyboard, but it didn't help either. Any ideas what could be a possible cause? Thank you for your help, Arman Here is an example of a code I am using: ---- $ ! HERE IS THE MAPPING PART; ! Here BackSpace works, but Space doesn't 1 ; $ \ +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ ----- ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. 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The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 02:48:46 2005 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1E9mYFJ006206 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:48:34 -0700 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2F414C01B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:48:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie by localhost.localdomain (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.16) id 07230-6F4F2260; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:48:28 +0000 Received: from PSY169071 (psy169071.psy.tcd.ie [134.226.169.71]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42E14C01B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:48:28 +0000 (GMT) From: "Andy" To: Subject: [DMDX] Arman Abrahamyan [a.abrahamyan@uws.edu.au] Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:49:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200502140928.j1E9SuwF000532@cooper.uws.edu.au> Message-Id: <20050214094828.5D42E14C01B@smtp3.tcd.ie> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hi Arman, In the DMDX help file, under DMDX help, input, I found the below info. Looks like the space bar is already been mapped as a "REQUEST". KEYBOARD +Space REQUEST +Left Shift NEG_RESP +Right Shift POS_RESP Not entirely sure what a request is, but try unmapping it first (in the header code at top of dmdx script) using the below function. Un-Map Request Keyword Parameter and switch to unmap all button mappings to the request input. Cheers, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 09:29 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Andy, I have tried to replace with and got the following error message "Button name <+SpaceBar> not found on input devices". Apparently, the name of space bar on the laptop is "Space". When I use DMDX doesn't complain and executes the code. However, when I press the space bar I get "No Response" message, indicating that the DMDX doesn't register pressing the space bar due to some reason. I assume that space bar has a special function in DMDX and doesn't get mapped easily, if at all. If there are no other suggestions I will try to use your code as a last resort. Thank you, Arman -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:31 PM To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Dear Arman, try changing your bit to . I find it odd though that your space bar is called SpaceBar, something to do with the external keyboard? Also, here's some incredibly ugly (and probably incredibly inefficient) code I put together a while back that allowed me to remap responses to the buttons of a mouse. I bet there are much nicer examples on the DMDX list archive though. Best, Andy. F2 d7 . +1 * "y", "top", "left" ; -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 00:54 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Greetings ! I was trying to map a SpaceBar on computer keyboard for a response. However, it doesn't work. I could successfully map few other buttons (e.g. Left and Right Arrows, Backspace), but not the SpaceBar (I got the SpaceBar button name from TimeDX). I am using Acer TravelMate 8000 laptop with an external keyboard. I have tried to disconnect the external keyboard, but it didn't help either. Any ideas what could be a possible cause? Thank you for your help, Arman Here is an example of a code I am using: ---- $ ! HERE IS THE MAPPING PART; ! Here BackSpace works, but Space doesn't 1 ; $ \ +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ ----- ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. 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The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 03:37:01 2005 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (cooper.uws.edu.au [137.154.210.65]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1EAaMFJ006333 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:36:23 -0700 Received: from cooper.uws.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-POST-1.9) with ESMTP id j1EAaLfK027548 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:36:21 +1100 (EST) Received: from ITP14448 ([137.154.115.27]) by cooper.uws.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/UWS-STF-PRE-1.9) with ESMTP id j1EAaLwF027505 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:36:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200502141036.j1EAaLwF027505@cooper.uws.edu.au> From: "Arman Abrahamyan" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:36:14 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20050214094828.5D42E14C01B@smtp3.tcd.ie> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Andy, Program works smoothly after unmapping the space bar from REQUEST and mapping it as a NEG_RESP. Thanks for your time and help ! Cheers, Arman -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:49 PM To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Arman Abrahamyan [a.abrahamyan@uws.edu.au] Hi Arman, In the DMDX help file, under DMDX help, input, I found the below info. Looks like the space bar is already been mapped as a "REQUEST". KEYBOARD +Space REQUEST +Left Shift NEG_RESP +Right Shift POS_RESP Not entirely sure what a request is, but try unmapping it first (in the header code at top of dmdx script) using the below function. Un-Map Request Keyword Parameter and switch to unmap all button mappings to the request input. Cheers, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 09:29 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Andy, I have tried to replace with and got the following error message "Button name <+SpaceBar> not found on input devices". Apparently, the name of space bar on the laptop is "Space". When I use DMDX doesn't complain and executes the code. However, when I press the space bar I get "No Response" message, indicating that the DMDX doesn't register pressing the space bar due to some reason. I assume that space bar has a special function in DMDX and doesn't get mapped easily, if at all. If there are no other suggestions I will try to use your code as a last resort. Thank you, Arman -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:31 PM To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Dear Arman, try changing your bit to . I find it odd though that your space bar is called SpaceBar, something to do with the external keyboard? Also, here's some incredibly ugly (and probably incredibly inefficient) code I put together a while back that allowed me to remap responses to the buttons of a mouse. I bet there are much nicer examples on the DMDX list archive though. Best, Andy. F2 d7 From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 03:38:58 2005 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1EAcsFJ006356 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:38:54 -0700 Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie (smtp3.tcd.ie [134.226.1.158]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EDE14C029 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.tcd.ie by localhost.localdomain (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.16) id 23364-7C506EF6; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:38:47 +0000 Received: from PSY169071 (psy169071.psy.tcd.ie [134.226.169.71]) by smtp3.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2007814C01E for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:38:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "Andy" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: Arman Abrahamyan [a.abrahamyan@uws.edu.au] Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:39:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050214103847.2007814C01E@smtp3.tcd.ie> Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Excuse my previous ramblings! The code below works on my machine: +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ Best, Andy. PS I've mapped the response to the g button, but this may be unnecessary. -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:woodsat@tcd.ie] Sent: 14 February 2005 09:49 To: 'DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu' Subject: [DMDX] Arman Abrahamyan [a.abrahamyan@uws.edu.au] Hi Arman, In the DMDX help file, under DMDX help, input, I found the below info. Looks like the space bar is already been mapped as a "REQUEST". KEYBOARD +Space REQUEST +Left Shift NEG_RESP +Right Shift POS_RESP Not entirely sure what a request is, but try unmapping it first (in the header code at top of dmdx script) using the below function. Un-Map Request Keyword Parameter and switch to unmap all button mappings to the request input. Cheers, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 09:29 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Andy, I have tried to replace with and got the following error message "Button name <+SpaceBar> not found on input devices". Apparently, the name of space bar on the laptop is "Space". When I use DMDX doesn't complain and executes the code. However, when I press the space bar I get "No Response" message, indicating that the DMDX doesn't register pressing the space bar due to some reason. I assume that space bar has a special function in DMDX and doesn't get mapped easily, if at all. If there are no other suggestions I will try to use your code as a last resort. Thank you, Arman -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:31 PM To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] RE: Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Dear Arman, try changing your bit to . I find it odd though that your space bar is called SpaceBar, something to do with the external keyboard? Also, here's some incredibly ugly (and probably incredibly inefficient) code I put together a while back that allowed me to remap responses to the buttons of a mouse. I bet there are much nicer examples on the DMDX list archive though. Best, Andy. F2 d7 . +1 * "y", "top", "left" ; -----Original Message----- From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Arman Abrahamyan Sent: 14 February 2005 00:54 To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] Trouble mapping Spacebar for a response Greetings ! I was trying to map a SpaceBar on computer keyboard for a response. However, it doesn't work. I could successfully map few other buttons (e.g. Left and Right Arrows, Backspace), but not the SpaceBar (I got the SpaceBar button name from TimeDX). I am using Acer TravelMate 8000 laptop with an external keyboard. I have tried to disconnect the external keyboard, but it didn't help either. Any ideas what could be a possible cause? Thank you for your help, Arman Here is an example of a code I am using: ---- $ ! HERE IS THE MAPPING PART; ! Here BackSpace works, but Space doesn't 1 ; $ \ +111 "Get ready !" // * "111.wav"; +112 "Get ready !" // * "112.wav"; +113 "Get ready !" // * "113.wav"; +121 "Get ready !" // * "121.wav"; +122 "Get ready !" // * "122.wav"; +123 "Get ready !" // * "123.wav"; +131 "Get ready !" // * "131.wav"; +132 "Get ready !" // * "132.wav"; +133 "Get ready !" // * "133.wav"; \ $ 0 "THAT IS IT, THANK YOU" l; $ ----- ==================================================================== Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email to be removed from the list. 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The list archive is available here: http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 14:51:59 2005 Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f6.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.16]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1ELpIFJ009135 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:51:18 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:51:03 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 128.196.62.38 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:50:45 GMT From: "Sarah Orjada" To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] tachistoscopic presentation script? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:50:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list hello- i'm planning a study that i'll outline: there will be a paragraph of context presented line by line, for which i need to record reading time for the final sentence of each paragraph. then a word will be presented tachistoscopically to a visual field. the subject is then to answer yes or no using a key pad response whether the presented word "goes with" the previous context. my question is...is there a script that has been already written to use in DMDX for something similar? in particular, i need to make sure the timing of the tach. presentation is perfect, as well as the placement of the word in a specific part of the visual field. if something has already been designed, i'm guessing that it might be of higher quality than were i to write the script myself. thanks, sarah From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Mon Feb 14 17:30:01 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1F0TbFJ009859 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (boromir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.217]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCEAA7DE66 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from KIFXP (mfg.psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.29]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F049EA804CD for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:36 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth Forster" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: tachistoscopic presentation script? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:45 -0700 Message-ID: <004f01c512f5$72d0c820$1d62c480@KIFXP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Sara, I don't know of any existing script, but the following should do what you want. --k.i.f. 0 "Instructions"; 0 "Press the spacebar to continue."; =1 *"The boy went behind the desk"; =2 *"and found an old typewriter,"; =3 *"which he dropped out of the window"; =4 *"which was on the seventh floor."; +5 %20 / %3 *" CRASH"/ ; ! This is a left field - right-field contrast; 0 "Press the spacebar to continue."; ! The left field version would look like this"; +5 %20 / %3 *"CRASH "/ ; 0 "Press the spacebar to continue."; ! If you want fancier positioning, then you need to use the x-y co-ordinates. For example--"; +5 %20 / %3 * "CRASH"/ ; 0 "Press the spacebar to continue."; +5 %20 / %3 * "CRASH"/ ; ! See the help file for details.; 0 "That's the end. Thank you!"; > -----Original Message----- > From: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu [mailto:DMDX- > owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Orjada > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:51 PM > To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu > Subject: [DMDX] tachistoscopic presentation script? > > hello- > i'm planning a study that i'll outline: > there will be a paragraph of context presented line by line, for which i > need to record reading time for the final sentence of each paragraph. then > a > word will be presented tachistoscopically to a visual field. the subject > is > then to answer yes or no using a key pad response whether the presented > word > "goes with" the previous context. > my question is...is there a script that has been already written to use in > DMDX for something similar? in particular, i need to make sure the timing > of > the tach. presentation is perfect, as well as the placement of the word in > a > specific part of the visual field. if something has already been designed, > i'm guessing that it might be of higher quality than were i to write the > script myself. > thanks, > sarah > > > ==================================================================== > Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread > ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Feb 16 06:55:25 2005 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de (fmmailgate04.web.de [217.72.192.242]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1GDroFJ018400 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:53:51 -0700 Received: by fmmailgate04.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id j1GDrc2S002737 for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:53:47 +0100 Received: from [134.147.103.4] by freemailng1604.web.de with HTTP; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:53:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:53:42 +0100 Message-Id: <555488932@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "tanya dolis" To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] maze command line/ randomization Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list ! Practice Items =1 *" This"/; -1 *" information cars"; +1 *" wet must"; +1 *" rabbit be"; -1 *" kept bed"; +1 *" sanitation. secret."; this is the command line and first practice item for my maze experiment. i find myself confronted with several problems: 1. the first word- "this"- does not get displayed. 2. i don't really know how to randomize all real items but not the practice items. i first thought that i' d group the practice items together and then have them be the seed for the randomization but then from what i have understood the randomized order would stay the same for all items which is unwanted. thank you for your help, tanya dolis ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Feb 16 09:19:28 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1GGJ1FJ019197 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:19:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (boromir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.217]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84310A81320 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:19:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from KIFXP (mfg.psych.arizona.edu [128.196.98.29]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5B0A7CA49 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:18:55 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth Forster" To: Subject: [DMDX] RE: maze command line/ randomization Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:19:05 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01c51443$3c551360$1d62c480@KIFXP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <555488932@web.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Tanya, > > > > ! Practice Items > > =1 *" This"/; > -1 *" information cars"; > +1 *" wet must"; > +1 *" rabbit be"; > -1 *" kept bed"; > +1 *" sanitation. secret."; > > this is the command line and first practice item for my maze experiment. i > find myself confronted with several problems: > > 1. the first word- "this"- does not get displayed. The forward slash schedules a blank frame which erases the previous frame, where "This" would appear. You don't see it because there is no default frame duration, e.g., . But you don't need it -- you want the word to stay on the screen until the subject responds. > 2. i don't really know how to randomize all real items but not the > practice items. i first thought that i' d group the practice items > together and then have them be the seed for the randomization but then > from what i have understood the randomized order would stay the same for > all items which is unwanted. If you insert a $ sign before a group of items, and again at the end, those items appear in that position in a fixed sequence. But if you scramble a MAZE file, the individual items that make up the sentence will get scrambled. One way to cope is to set a grouping factor, e.g., . This effectively defines a group of 12 items to be a single item as far as scrambling is concerned. This means you'd have to make all your sentences the same length (12 words in this case). If some are shorter, you can include "dummy" items, such as in the following: =1 *" This"; -2 *" information cars"; +3 *" wet must"; +4 *" rabbit be"; -5 *" kept bed"; +6 *" sanitation. secret."; 0 c; 0 c; 0 c; 0 c; 0 c; 0 c; These are "instructions" that don't display anything. The "c" is necessary to reinstate continuous running so that DMDX goes on to the next item without waiting. So, if you had 20 sentences, you'd include on the parameter line. There are more sophisticated procedures that achieve the same effect. I have developed an Excel template for constructing MAZE files. If you are interested let me know (mail to me not the list). --k.i.f. > > thank you for your help, > > tanya dolis > ______________________________________________________________ > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 > > ==================================================================== > Send mail to DMDX-request@psy1.psych.arizona.edu with the word > 'unsubscribe' by itself with no quotes in the body of the email > to be removed from the list. The list archive is available here: > http://psy1.psych.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/DMDX/thread > ==================================================================== From DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Wed Feb 16 11:48:19 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by psy1.psych.arizona.edu (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j1GIlXFJ020046 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:47:33 -0700 Received: from ncs.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.36]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1D1UCp-0000cw-Ew for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:47:25 +0000 Received: from coracle.psy.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.60.205] helo=coracle.psy-staff.psy.bris.ac.uk) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.44) id 1D1UCo-0005MV-Q1 for DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:47:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:47:22 +0000 From: "CJ Davis, Experimental Psychology" To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Subject: [DMDX] enhanced rate detection test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: DMDX@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Sender: DMDX-owner@psy1.psych.arizona.edu Precedence: list Hi, Thanks for replies to my previous message about choosing different refresh rates -- I've now discovered that a new video card was required (we got a Sapphire Radeon 7000). My next question concerns the Enh. Retrace test in TimeDX. As I understand it, this is the gold standard: if the screen is split into two (stationary) equal halves, then the estimated refresh rate is